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                             Berlin, Germany. last (site) update: 2017-05-16 16:00


left: Jammin' Unit (electronics + guitar) + right: Sea Wanton (sampling, shortwave-radio, vocals) played the 'Liquid Sky Berlin' show #48', at 'Alex-tv Berlin', 2015. images + glitches courtesy of 'ADSX'. many thanks to Dr. Walker (from 'Liquid Sky Berlin') for invitation. click on image to watch the video ... find us on 'bandcamp', 'soundcloud', 'discogs', 'mixcloud', and 'youtube'. for all inquiries, please write to 'Sea Wanton' at the following address: resistance(at)nontoxiquelost(dot)de

planned (for 2017): in fact, it's planned to upload ALL 'Non Toxique Lost' songs to 'bandcamp' to make them available as 'digital downloads'.

current (we're not slowing !!): the brand-new album is named 'nur noch eine sekunde bis' (which translates to 'just only one second to'). you can listen to the 14 songs at 'bandcamp' .

do you want more informations about all the releases of 'Non Toxique Lost' ? then, click here to get an overview ... and this is/was

---thee Industrial Records story--- copyright Genesis Breyer P-Orridge (excerpt, taken from "TG CD1", 1986) "Industrial Records began as an investigation. The 4 members of Throbbing Gristle wanted to investigate to what extent you could mutate and collage sound, present complex non-entertaining noises to a popular culture situation and convince and convert. We wanted to re-invest Rock music with content, motivation and risk. Our records were documents of attitudes and experiences and observations by us and other determinedly individual outsiders. Fashion was an enemy, style irrelevant. We wanted to also investigate music as a Business phenomenon and propose models for entirely new and innovative modes of commercial operation. A parody and an improvement ...We wanted to make music and records more effective and relevant to our Industrial society, and we wanedt to make business more efficient and creative as well ... Big records companies produce records like cars; we are connected to a contemporary social situation, not a blues orientated past style; we work hard for what we want, we are industrious; we parody and challenge large industrial companies and their debasing ethics and depersonalisation; ... industrial labour is slavery, destructive, a redundant institution ... Our records are a combination of files on our relationship with the world and a Newspaper without censorship ... INDUSTRIAL MUSIC FOR INDUSTRIAL PEOPLE.You Get what you deserve. Or do you ? Well, from the people with a vested interest in controlling and guiding society to follow their recommendations as to what attitudes you should have, what motivations should govern your behaviour and what goals you should be satisfied with, you DO NOT get what you deserve. You get what you are given, and what you are given is primarily conditioning that pushes you towards blind acceptance, wasted labour, frustrated relationships and a vast sense of hopelessness. We are trained to feel we are not responsible or in control of our society and world so that we will continue to let "Leaders" look after us like parents with retarded children. Leaders are not essential, we are TAUGHT to believe we need them, that we are not able to assume responsibility for ourselves. Lies created leaders, lies perpetuate leaders, lies destroy joy and creativity and hope ... no one here is a leader. We assume full responsibility for ourselves. We will not be deflected from our destiny. OUR LIFE. There is currently a trend back towards total control and safety in the record and music industry. Groups are styled, hyped and successful before they even release a record. Old outlaws and thinkers are opting for security, comfortable records that apply radical discoveries to banal musical ends. Show business and its inherited goals and justifications are triumphant again. The public is seduced and cheated by emptiness packaged alluringly in cheap tinsel. Fear is the Government once more ...Truth and hope have no boundaries, no set style, they are implicit most clearly in the way you choose to live. The title of the last record issued by Industrial tells the rest. "Nothing here now but the recordings." Or perhaps there is ...


..."Nothing here now but the recordings." Or perhaps there is... click here (or on image) to listen to 'SAM 41643'(the version from 'Träneninvasion', see 'card-sized usb flash memory' above)

digital age - at this rate, music downloads will be dead by 2020 (July 12, 2016)
from: comment by rkco
"Well, the record industry really has destroyed itself, hasn't it? If you're 40+ yrs. old like me, you could just watch it crumble. But why did they? Vinyl and tape were mediums everyone loved to buy, including teenagers, before the digital age. The worst that happened is that the Vinyl was sometimes copied to tape for a few buddies. Even here, you couldn't copy from tape to tape to tape..., because of quality loss. Then this was replaced by CDs. Already here you could witness that kids didn't buy CDs as much as before with Vinyl or tape. The prices were pretty high. The "old folk" with jobs bought CDs, usually rebought records they already had as analog version, just because we were lured into thinking that CDs sounded better. They don't. Not only that, we also thought they would last longer than Vinyl - another mistake: one scratch and you could throw it away (while records are still playable after 40 odd years.). Next came the MP3, and why the industry picked up this format, is anyone's guess. The quality is at long listening a cause for ear-bleed. Along with this came file-sharing - first illegal, now nobody seems to give a crap. Then the price of about a buck for a song, and not something you don't have in your hands and only might listen to for a few weeks? Music is computer games, console games, YouTube videos, television,'s easy to see why kids today don't see the worth of paying for music to listen to it. Streaming for discovering new music is actually a grand idea. It always reminds me of back in the day when we went to a record store and could listen to the albums on headphones before you bought them. Except now, you can just take the whole record store with you for the price of about one album...every artist and each of their releases. But to make this even more interesting, why not just this offer this for free? Isn't this where this is all leading to? I mean, there's no money in it anymore anyway."

reply by omeka falconburn
"Hey rkco, nice mono-log I would of written exactly the same apart from my 1 finger typing, just a point on the free streaming, as a song writer I can see that there are no fortunes to be made anymore, but I dont want a fortune, just enough to feed the kids, pay the rent and do what I enjoy/am good at would do me. A worldwide musical streaming co-op/commune is what I have been musing over latley, cut out the middle men. I just watched a Doco on Tower records, hunt it down I think you would appreciate it." digital age - at this rate, music downloads will be dead by 2020 (July 12, 2016)

Music (digital) download --- "FREE DOWNLOADS - Think about the following: Marblewood is presenting all the music as free downloads in high quality. This is not because we think our music isn't worth anything, but because we're reacting to digital reproducibility and consequential changes in the music business. But creating an album is still a huge endeavour and takes a lot of resources, time- and moneywise. So if you like what we are doing, don't hesitate to support us in any possible way: - Come to our concerts - Spread our music (among your friends, at your local recordstore, favourite bar, music magazine and radiostation...) - Treat yourself to physical copies (finest 180g vinyl / CD's) of our music - Subscribe to our newsletter - Leave a comment in our guestbook or friend us on facebook. We'd still like to remind you that it's our music though. For any kind of commercial use, you'll need our approval. Just drop us a line if you still have any questions! " Marblewood

CD --- "The Compact Disc Digital Audio System offers the best possible sound reproduction - on a small, convenient sound-carrier unit. The Compact Disc's remarkable performance is the result of a unique combination of digital playback with laser optics. For the best results, you should apply the same care in storing and handling the Compact Disc as with conventional records. No further cleaning will be neccessary if the Compact Disc is always held by the edges and is replaced in its case directly after playing. Should the Compact Disc become soiled by fingerprints, dust or dirt, it can be wiped (always in a straight line, from center to edge) with a clean and lint-free soft, dry cloth. No solvent or abrasive cleaner should ever be used on the disc. If you follow these suggestions, the Compact Disc will provide a lifetime of pure listening enjoyment." Atlantic Recording Corporation

MiniDisc --- "How the MiniDisc got so small. The 2.5-inch MiniDisc, encased in a plastic cartridge that looks like a 3.5-inch diskette (...), uses a new digital audio compression technology called ATRAC (Adaptive TRansform Acoustic Coding). To store more sounds in less space, ATRAC extracts and encodes only those frequency components actually audible to the human ear." Sony Corporation

Card-sized usb flash memory --- "A flash memory mass storage drives stores user files in a convenient credit card sized drive. Embodiments function as both a credit card and a mass storage drive. Communication may be through a host interface connector such as a USB connector, a magnetic interface, a smart card interface, and/or a near field communication interface. In certain embodiments the drive comprises a portion that is sufficiently thin to be swiped through a standard credit card, ATM, or point of sale device. The USB connector of the drive can easily be plugged into even a crowded receptacle of a host-computing device." Walletex Microelectronics Ltd.

Vinyl --- "The vinyl record is a type of gramophone record, most popular from the 1950s to the 1990s, that was most commonly used for mass-produced recordings of music. A vinyl gramophone or phonograph record consists of a disc of polyvinyl chloride plastic, engraved on both sides with a single concentric spiral groove in which a sapphire or diamond needle, stylus, is intended to run, from the outside edge towards the centre (though it should be noted that on a very small number of albums, like "Goodbye Blue and White" by Less Than Jake, a hidden track, or the entire side, will be played from the centre out). While a 78 rpm record is brittle and relatively easily broken, both the microgroove LP 33⅓ rpm record and the 45 rpm single records are made from vinyl plastic which is flexible and unbreakable in normal use. 78s come in a variety of sizes, the most common being 10 inch (25 cm) and 12 inch (30 cm) diameter, and these were originally sold in either paper or card covers, generally with a circular cutout allowing the record label to be seen. The Long-Playing records (LPs) usually come in a paper sleeve within a colour printed card jacket which also provides a track listing. 45 rpm singles and EPs (Extended Play) are of 7 inch (17.5 cm) diameter, the earlier copies being sold in paper covers. Grooves on a 78 rpm are much coarser than the LP and 45." Record Collectors Guild

Compact cassette --- "For Car Cassette Decks, Play Time Is Over. By STEPHEN WILLIAMS, FEB. 4, 2011. For all of you who were planning to pack up your oldies tapes and go shopping for a 2011 car, there is bad news: you're too late. According to experts who monitor the automotive market, the last new car to be factory-equipped with a cassette deck in the dashboard was a 2010 Lexus. While it is possible that a little-known exception lurks deep within some automaker's order forms, a survey of major automakers and a search of new-car shopping Web sites indicates that the tape deck is as passé as tailfins on a Caddy. In most respects, that's not a bad thing. Although the technologies behind the compact tape cassette, which was invented by Philips, improved through the years — longer play times, better tape quality, Dolby noise reduction — magnetic tapes were subject to wear. They stretched, wound themselves around the innards of the drive mechanism and melted their cases in hot weather."..."We spend an average of 55 minutes a day commuting in the car,” said Mr. Kahn of Sony. “The car’s cockpit is like a studio on wheels, better than the best headphones. And after all, there’s nothing more American for Americans than great songs and the open road." The New York Times

Record shops --- "It`pretty hard for musicians and labels to sell records today. It seems that people have a free download mentality. It`s very difficult to sell products from unknown artists or music of a more unconfessional nature. In the past, it was curiosity that led people to buy and consume musical products. Today everything must have a name or some glory from former days. In the past, Record shops where institutions which confronted people with new or unknown sounds. Today the scene of record shops with an interest in experimental music has all but dried out. The internet is the main source today. So informations suffer due the fact that the listener/downloader just dips in new or unknown things very shortly. The classical confrontation with sounds and musical ideas often get lost." Frank Rowenta

VHS tape --- "It should, right? VHS tape is an analog medium, after all. I've been doing a little experimenting with an old Toshiba Hi-Fi VCR. What I've been doing is recording some of my CDs to VHS tape (in SP mode), and playing the tape back through my stereo system. I'm not sure if it's all in my mind, but by doing this, there seems to be a more pleasing "punch" coming from the VHS tape transfer than there is when listening to the actual CD. Bright CDs seem to sound smoother. Flabby low-end seems to sound tighter. Even overly-compressed CDs sound much better when transferring them to VHS tape. What are your opinions on using VHS tape for audio purposes? " alan 90

book --- "To celebrate 40 years of songwriting across both the Sex Pistols and Public Image Ltd (PiL) eras, John Lydon is delighted to announce the personal and truly exclusive publication of Mr Rotten’s Songbook, limited to just 1000 copies. Presented in glorious, luxury large format (370x290mm portrait), Mr Rotten’s Songbook follows the success of John's 2010 scrapbook and combines never before seen artwork, handwritten and annotated lyric sheets and features every song he has ever written. Each album features an exclusive introduction from John, giving never before seen insight in to the meaning behind the words that have shaped four decades of songwriting. The publication will be available to pre-order this Thursday at 6pm and you can read all about it and see sample spreads from the book in the below image. Cover and original artwork by John Lydon."